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The Miami HEAT fell to the San Antonio Spurs 117-105 Wednesday night at AT&T Center. Tyler Johnson led the way for the HEAT with a season-high 25 points. Click here for the full recap on HEAT.com.

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No shame in that one,...... the Spurs bench has outpaced and outspaced us all the way in the 4th quarter......... The Spurs had some key defenive plays and blocks down the stretch from their more experienced squad.............. 

You cannot hate Dion Waiters in this game for doing the best in his establishment as a franchise here, but it just wasn't enough...........

The glimmer light in the tunnel was NEW PRECIOUS Bam who has helped us to be competitive with his high octane energy off the bench.................. 

J-Rich finally found his offensive rhythm better the last 2 games, and TJ was again our most explosive 6th man..........

Overall, we ran outa gas in the 4th quarter in a high octane game against a legendary Top Franchise of Texas,.....................

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12 hours ago, MaxHeat69 said:

You cannot hate Dion Waiters in this game for doing the best in his establishment as a franchise here, but it just wasn't enough...........

 

I can hate on him.  I'm getting tired of seeing 90%+ of his shots being from outside 15 ft.  I can understand him complaining when hes got two teammates hanging out in the paint but when hes on the floor with 4 shooters and still can't get to the rim he needs someone in his ear.

Right not hes playing an inefficient game and getting inefficient results.  If he was playing defense it would be a bit more palatable but he can't even fall back on that justification.

Dragic has had his fair share of awful games lately but even when he can't hit a shot hes a vital part of this offense.  The same cannot be said for Waiters.

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16 minutes ago, propheticWrit said:

 

I can hate on him.  I'm getting tired of seeing 90%+ of his shots being from outside 15 ft.  I can understand him complaining when hes got two teammates hanging out in the paint but when hes on the floor with 4 shooters and still can't get to the rim he needs someone in his ear.

Right not hes playing an inefficient game and getting inefficient results.  If he was playing defense it would be a bit more palatable but he can't even fall back on that justification.

Dragic has had his fair share of awful games lately but even when he can't hit a shot hes a vital part of this offense.  The same cannot be said for Waiters.

 

How can anyone complain about Dion on a night where he gives us 22 and 5, goes 8/12 from the field, 4/6 from 3, and has a +/- of +10?

This is exactly the type of game I've been asking for from Dion, and although it didn't yield a win, it clearly contributed to a much better flow offensively.  You're right about his defense, but Dragic has been even worse on that end.  

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1 hour ago, TRIPLEA2TOOTSIES said:

 

How can anyone complain about Dion on a night where he gives us 22 and 5, goes 8/12 from the field, 4/6 from 3, and has a +/- of +10?

This is exactly the type of game I've been asking for from Dion, and although it didn't yield a win, it clearly contributed to a much better flow offensively.  You're right about his defense, but Dragic has been even worse on that end.  

Facts. Dion hit a couple big 3’s when it looked like the spurs might start to run away.

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too much fighting and bickering in the forum about the heat's game against SA... the players read these posts I bet and they burn them over little stuff... remember these are young guys, what they read affects their game a lot. winslow is a good example, don't you think he gets bummed out with extremist opinions of himself? HE COULDNT BUY A BEER TILL RECENTLY. he has shown spurts of greatness. easy now. we are ruining our players

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4 hours ago, TRIPLEA2TOOTSIES said:

How can anyone complain about Dion on a night where he gives us 22 and 5, goes 8/12 from the field, 4/6 from 3, and has a +/- of +10?

This is exactly the type of game I've been asking for from Dion, and although it didn't yield a win, it clearly contributed to a much better flow offensively.  You're right about his defense, but Dragic has been even worse on that end.  

 

Its great that he hit the shots but the degree of difficulty is way too high for him to repeat this performance on a regular basis.  Hes taking shots that are going to go in about a third of the time....that's just not good basketball.  I get that you're always going to get some of this with Waiters and its great that hes capable of hitting a fadaway three and confident enough to take the shot when the game is on the line.  But this team has been brutal on the offensive end for most of the season and a big part of that is the guy taking the most shots being the least effective scorer.

If he can't find a way to get to the rim then the team is better off with someone who can hit the three.  

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30 minutes ago, al bonDyga said:

too much fighting and bickering in the forum about the heat's game against SA... the players read these posts I bet and they burn them over little stuff... remember these are young guys, what they read affects their game a lot. winslow is a good example, don't you think he gets bummed out with extremist opinions of himself? HE COULDNT BUY A BEER TILL RECENTLY. he has shown spurts of greatness. easy now. we are ruining our players

 

I think for most fans, the criticism is coming from a good place.  At the end of the day, most of us want the same thing for this team and these players.  I'd hope these players take most criticism they hear with a grain of salt. 

I've always treated these forums as an awesome place to discuss Heat basketball with other passionate fans, and also as a place to vent my frustrations when the team plays poorly.  If I criticize a player or the coach, I usually try to also add a solution to whatever it is I think they might be doing wrong.  That way it's at least constructive criticism lol.

I'd hope that our players' and coaches for that matter, have thick enough skin to handle a little criticism from fans, but you do make a good point, al.  It wouldn't kill some of us to be a little more supportive.

 

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1 hour ago, propheticWrit said:

 

Its great that he hit the shots but the degree of difficulty is way too high for him to repeat this performance on a regular basis.  Hes taking shots that are going to go in about a third of the time....that's just not good basketball.  I get that you're always going to get some of this with Waiters and its great that hes capable of hitting a fadaway three and confident enough to take the shot when the game is on the line.  But this team has been brutal on the offensive end for most of the season and a big part of that is the guy taking the most shots being the least effective scorer.

If he can't find a way to get to the rim then the team is better off with someone who can hit the three.  

 

I agree there have been too many games this season where Dion either settles for a low percentage jumper, or gets himself in there air with no where to go.  But last night I thought he got into the paint and made plays for others, and took shots that came within the flow of the offense.  

Now if you wanna talk about his defense, that's a different story lol but we'd still have to talk about Dragic as well.

 

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1 hour ago, Majestic said:

Maybe I should post this in here too.

 

 

Well played, OG...

 

 

 

Related image

 

Ok...Maybe a little. But that's messed up lol.

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5 hours ago, Majestic said:

Maybe I should post this in here too.

 

What is this? If you don’t mind.

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18 minutes ago, Five.ohh said:

What is this? If you don’t mind.

 

TPA Model

The concept of total points added (TPA), isn’t particularly complicated. We’re looking at both defensive and offensive effectiveness on a per-possession basis while also incorporating the amount of playing time the contributor in question receives.

At the heart of the theory is this comparison between two hypothetical players:

  • Player A makes an average team 5 points better per 100 possessions than an average player would in his spot, and he plays 500 possessions.
  • Player B makes an average team 10 points better per 100 possessions than an average player would in his spot, and he plays 250 possessions.

Player B is more effective on a per-possession basis—twice as effective, in fact. But Player A spends twice as much time on the court. Theoretically, they should have identical values, as they would both add 25 points to an average team.

As such, the formula for TPA is rather simple. It’s broken down into two parts—offensive points added (OPA) and defensive points saved (DPS)—and each is calculated in the same vein.

OPA is derived by adjusting offensive box plus/minus (OBPM) to account for the number of possessions the player in question is present for. Similarly, DPS is derived from a similar adjustment of defensive box plus/minus (DBPM) with that same number of possessions. OBPM and DBPM, both calculated by Basketball-Reference.com, estimate the per-100-possessions value of a player on either end of the court.

Add OPA and DPS together, and you have TPA. A score of zero indicates a player was perfectly average (by no means a bad thing for rookies or lifelong end-of-bench players), while anything positive means they were better than an average-level replacement.

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11 hours ago, TRIPLEA2TOOTSIES said:

I agree there have been too many games this season where Dion either settles for a low percentage jumper, or gets himself in there air with no where to go.  But last night I thought he got into the paint and made plays for others, and took shots that came within the flow of the offense.  

Now if you wanna talk about his defense, that's a different story lol but we'd still have to talk about Dragic as well.

 

Dragic is an irreplaceable player on this roster.  So while it would be great if he could defend at a high level its not like Spoelstra is going to turn the offense over to TJ.  He has turned it over to JJ before but that's not a long term solution to anything.

At SG there are options.

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10 hours ago, propheticWrit said:

 

Dragic is an irreplaceable player on this roster.

i beg to differ..:rolleyes: he's reached his peaked level and will just descend from now on. 

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12 hours ago, propheticWrit said:

 

Dragic is an irreplaceable player on this roster.  So while it would be great if he could defend at a high level its not like Spoelstra is going to turn the offense over to TJ.  He has turned it over to JJ before but that's not a long term solution to anything.

At SG there are options.

 

I love GoGo....but irreplaceable?  

If Dragic were to go down, I'd have complete confidence that Dion could play PG.  

Dragic's consistency makes him the better player overall at this point in their careers, but to say that Dragic is irreplaceable is a stretch for me.

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